Re: Buster without systemd?
On Tuesday 24 March 2020 09:38:08 David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 06:42:44 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 March 2020 06:04:10 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > On Lu, 23 mar 20, 18:42:49, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Thats a problem I don't have Greg. I went to a locally defined
> > > > hosts file 30+ years ago for all my private resolutions, and it
> > > > Just Works. Queries that go out on the wire for resolution are
> > > > relayed to the dns services of my provider. Resolution times for
> > > > external sites are sub 100 millisecond as a general rule. Thats
> > > > ALL handled by my router running dd-wrt which I think is using
> > > > dnsmasq.
> > > >
> > > > Yet every time I promote such a structure as a solution to
> > > > someones local network problems I am the idiot according to you
> > > > for not using dhcp globally. I don't enjoy being painted as an
> > > > a-hole for using something that Just Works. So I've quit unless
> > > > you or someone like you pulls my chain.
> > >
> > > Static IPs and /etc/hosts works just fine here with
> > > systemd-networkd / systemd-resolved and Network Manager.
> > >
> > > > For the "vast majority of system's", as I install them, the
> > > > first thing I have to do is uninstall that stuff as it has yet
> > > > in the last 5 years, to use anything in the routing table but
> > > > the avahi supplied 169.xx.cc.nn address which is not allowed off
> > > > the premises by dd-wrt.
> > >
> > > [citation needed]
> >
> > My own posting about it in just the past year, but that posting was
> > only done after the problem was solved. As its a bit hard to post
> > from the machine that has a bogus routing setup. With dhcpd5 (I
> > think thats the right name) in the system it does no good to put the
> > correct route as a gateway statement in your /e/n/interfaces tree.
>
> Hm, you thought you'd probably fixed the problem IIRC while composing
> your post of Sat, 6 Jul 2019 21:38:10 -0400, after a couple of days of
> back-and-forth here, and after being asked to move the discussion here
> from a different list.
>
> > So that and avahi generally get nuked.
>
> Most of us avoid installing packages, rather than nuking them.
Installed by default, and the defaults are WRONG.
> Oh, but I almost forgot, it wasn't a Debian system in any case.
>
> > IMNSHO both were written to screw up networking,
> > their only possible reason-de-tere.
>
> Shame on you, sir.
Maybe so, but lots of this could be moved to debian IF debian could be so
kind as to supply us with a buildable preempt-rt kernel that works as
well as the default kernel does but many microseconds quicker. Raspbian
does at least supply the src code although they do not otherwise support
it. Either that, or help the RTAI guy keep up with the changeing
landscape between cpu architectures. That would be even better.
> Cheers,
> David.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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