Re: A call to drop gnome
Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> writes:
> Hi.
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
>> On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:> Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream
>> said their word loud and clear, and that
>> > word is - 'thou shall use Wayland for it is our favorite toy now'.
>
> I wrote it, in reply to Thomas e-mail. Please watch who you quote.
>
>
>> Now Tomas quips about gnome is insisting that we like a new video process,
>> just because the team have decided to like it lots.
>
> No. What I wrote that for several years you had the possibility to run
> GNOME on Wayland. And it will be the default in the next stable Debian.
> Because (and here you're correct) - upstream wants that everyone use the
> GNOME that way.
Wayland as default will be by and large OK as far as GNOME is concerned
IMO from the 2 years i've ran it as default. The last few gnome releases
are very solid. Waylands real problem is the DE/OS devs love it but
users and apparently most app devs couldn't care less.
> You have the ability to run GNOME over X. For now. I predicted that such
> ability may disappear in unspecified future (probably - years). Because
> GNOME upstream is (in)famous for feature removal.
>
>
>> I say this is NOT freedom.
>
> The usual arguments apply.
> Don't like it - patch it. Patches are welcome. They have the commit bit
> - you do not. Etc.
> And yes, there are some who did exactly that - Mate DE, Cinnamon DE to
> name a few examples.
>
>
>> So, I am asking that gnome be dropped as an installation option (not
>> just as the default desktop) until they encourage freedom.
>
> There's an appropriate place for such wishes, it's called
> https://bugs.debian.org.
>
> Reco
>
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