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On 16.04.2019 22:54, Matthew Crews
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You could run Gnome with nvidia back in 2017 already. Run a console and a browser with hardware acceleration support, but that was about it.I will concede that as long as Nvidia drivers do not play nicely with Wayland (and they don't AFAIK), X will still be required. But I did just read that Plasma 5.16 landed Nvidia patches that let it work under Wayland with Nvidia, so maybe not that much longer in the future? Unless Nvidia will make stable drivers with Wayland support and there will be some kind of back compatibility layer implemented in Wayland, to allow to run "legacy" software, I'll stay on X and on Stretch. I agree with the fact that we must migrate to Wayland to test it and provide feedback, but it needs to be a build house, just without furniture, not a mere scaffolding that being build last 10 years. There are no alternatives. Red cards, despite their flashy marketing, still don't have drivers to fully support them and games with native Linux ports don't support them officially.(and unfortunately, people will still buy and use Nvidia cards, and want support for them whether or not the drivers are FOSS). Blue cards are simply out of the league. Gnome is not just a DE, so it surely won't go anywhere. There is too much ecosystem that couldn't be just thrown away.Fair enough. I personally think KDE or even XFCE should be the default DE for Debian, but thats just my opinion and the the topic of endless debate. We will be in circles debating what we think the default DE for Debian should be. As long as the Debian installer gives us a choice (and as long as a variety of Live images for each major DE are available), it doesn't really matter in the end. I do not think that Gnome should be removed from Debian as long as Gnome works fine. As far as I'm concerned, it does work fine. Perfect? No, but good enough IMO. And every other DE (except maybe KDE) uses parts from Gnome. As for Synaptic, if I really want something going on my system, I'll backport it and throw it's deb package into special folder with the rest of backported things I use. But for now, I plan to stay on oldstable (stretch) for a couple of years and watch how things will be developed from a distance. -- With kindest regards, Alexander. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ |