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Re: A call to drop gnome



	Hi.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:35:32AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > R> The usual arguments apply.  Don't like it - patch it. Patches are
> > > R> welcome.
> 
> I wondered how long it would take for that phrase to emerge, so everyone 
> in a position of control can hide behind it yet again.
> 
> > > Say, "can you translate Odissey from ancient greek to Rovigo
> > > dialect?"
> >
> > Nope. But I can pay to someone who does, assuming that I want such
> > translation. Same as everyone else.
> >
> > > That is a petty example (if you can, my kudos!), patching is not a
> > > thing this easy to do. You have to be a programmer good enought,
> > > then you have to understando how the program works and how to change
> > > it. Then you have to write the changes and possibly test it against
> > > existing test cases, it requires skills, it requires time.
> >
> > ... and there are those who did it already. But then again, for me
> > GNOME project went off-rails (usability POV, not a technical one) long
> > time ago. Patching the GNOME to restore sane behaviour is harder than
> > avoiding it.
> 
> +1000!

Um, Gene. You are aware that I wrote both arguments, are you?


> > > Gnome goal is noble, to let unskilled users use it.
> >
> > I recall hearing similar rhetoric 25 years ago. Some Operating System
> > who's name starts with big W, and it had 4-color flag for logo. Some
> > say that rise in popularity of said OS involved an unspecified amount
> > of unconventional off-market negotiations and a bag of dirty tricks.
> 
> We all heard the same "sermon" and ran like hell because we already were 
> familiar with both their market controlling efforts and this same bag of 
> dirty tricks a bar of good soap has little effect because you simply 
> cannot make them palatable in a free market.
> 
> I see Linus is drifting back to his older style, issuing the desktop 
> people a whipping they are in need of over the weekend, saying 90% of 
> why linux doesn't control the desktop is that there is not a 
> standardized, one size fits all because it can do all things desktop. 

A link please, LKML will suffice. If Linus is back after that CoC story
in all his former glory - I need to see this.

Reco


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