Re: A call to drop gnome
Hi.
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 06:54:00PM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote:
> On 4/16/19 6:54 AM, Reco wrote:
> >> I see Linus is drifting back to his older style, issuing the desktop
> >> people a whipping they are in need of over the weekend, saying 90% of
> >> why linux doesn't control the desktop is that there is not a
> >> standardized, one size fits all because it can do all things desktop.
> >
> > A link please, LKML will suffice. If Linus is back after that CoC story
> > in all his former glory - I need to see this.
>
> Old news. He posted two days ago about Linux Kernel 5.1-rc5:
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/4/14/265
Nah, that's not Linus. A double, probably.
I mean, there's the expression? Colorful language? Some profanity, at
the very least?
> As far as Gnome on Wayland, X.org's days are numbered, and for good reason.
And now it gets interesting.
> The major DEs are all pushing for the move to Wayland,
All two of them, I assume?
> but they continue to support X because Wayland isn't fully ready.
Ok.
> However it cannot be made ready unless people are actually using it in
> the wild, and submitting feedback.
That's understandable. I mean, code tests and Continuous Integration are
for the cowards, right? Real developers test their code on users. Both
GNOME and KDE are famous in this regard.
> Additionally, every major Linux distro supports Wayland, provided their
> chosen DE supports Wayland.
[Carefully looks at Debian 9, Ubuntu 18.10 and RHEL 7.5].
Sure. That's why they're offering X by default. To test Wayland. That's
a really cunning plan.
> Some major ones even USE Wayland by default where possible.
[Scratches head] SUSE? Surely that's what you meant?
> It will not be long before X is deprecated, and then
> fully removed.
All these sentences, but I failed to see this "good reason" of yours.
> This all stems back to Synaptic being removed from Debian Buster right?
In this particular thread we discuss a wish of a Debian User, who in no
uncertain terms expressed that GNOME should be dropped from the Debian.
I mean, look at the Subject.
> Well, all someone needs to do is update Synaptic with proper Wayland
> support.
And the reason for this being exactly what?
> But judging by the upstream development, it appears that
> Synaptic might be abandoned?
$ x-www-browser https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/synaptic
$ git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/mvo5/synaptic
$ cd synaptic
$ git log
commit 449180d2d1abbd49e113d882e8b9b6387321c4fa
Author: Michael Vogt <mvo@ubuntu.com>
Date: Mon Apr 15 11:14:51 2019 +0200
Nope, looks alive to me.
Reco
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