Re: painted into a corner
I like network manager when I'm out and about with my notebook it
works great for connecting to wireless hotspots. It does what it was
designed for.
The new udev naming convention does look strange but at least udev no
longer randomly flip flops the nics on my UTM putting the inside
ruleset on the outside interface and outside ruleset on the inside
interface. It would have been better if they could have kept the eth0
style convention and used a file to keep persistence in the naming and
activating.
On 8/20/18, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2018 20:08:11 David Wright wrote:
>
>> On Mon 20 Aug 2018 at 16:27:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > On Monday 20 August 2018 11:13:08 Michael Stone wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:33:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > > >sudo reboot doesn't unmount the system drive cleanly enough? Then
>> > > > I'd call it a bug.
>> > >
>> > > I'm sure you would. But for all of your wall-of-text ranting, you
>> > > failed to ever provide basic information like "what is the result
>> > > of trying to mount the partition" so we're left guessing here.
>> >
>> > If you had read that wall of text, the error was that the new
>> > version of ext4 supported stuff the wheezy version didn't and it
>> > recommended getting an updated e2fs-utils, which of course is not
>> > available in a wheezy repo.
>>
>> Yes, I still don't understand why you install stretch but then run
>> wheezy. It's normal for modern systems to understand older formats,
>> but old systems' authors can't foresee future features. Say that fast.
>>
>> > So I reboot to a different installer supplied by the linuxcnc
>> > people, and installed it. Weird, I had access to the network, and
>> > could download updates, but when I looked in /dev/ no sign of either
>> > eth0 or enp0s8.
>>
>> Eh? in /dev?
>>
> Absolutely no trace of either an eth# or an enp0s# there. At that point I
> looked to see if it was 5 o-clock yet. Wasn't, dammit.
>
>> > Installed some more stuff with aptitude,logged out and rebooted to
>> > that install, and now my network is dead.
>> > So, working from a terminal, I've tried to configure it manually,
>> > and that fails, so I am now back on wheezy, which Just Works. And
>> > I've no quick and dirty way to copy/paste those errors after a
>> > reboot, isolating that filesystem from wheezy.
>> >
>> > If you want to help, give me a link to a printable tut on how to
>> > make a working static, host based for local lookups, but uses my
>> > router, which in turn will forward the dns requests it cannot answer
>> > from dnsmasq, to real servers on the outside network, like my isp's
>> > network. On stretch.
>> >
>> > I've read the gibberish man page for ip & friends, since ifconfig is
>> > gone, and apparently so it route, but gibberish is the correct term
>> > when there is not a working example line in the whole man page just
>> > to prove it works.
>>
>> Eh?
>>
>> $ cat /etc/debian_version
>> 9.5
>> $ /sbin/ifconfig
>
> not found
>
>> enp1s0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>> ether 08:9e:01:c8:67:7e txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
>> RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
>> RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
>> TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
>> TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
>>
>> lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536
>> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
>> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host>
>> loop txqueuelen 1 (Local Loopback)
>> RX packets 594 bytes 42487 (41.4 KiB)
>> RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
>> TX packets 594 bytes 42487 (41.4 KiB)
>> TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
>>
>> wlp2s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>> inet 192.168.1.17 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
>> 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::e8b:fdff:fe0b:67fb prefixlen 64 scopeid
>> 0x20<link> ether 0c:8b:fd:0b:67:fb txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
>> RX packets 1291291 bytes 238957455 (227.8 MiB)
>> RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
>> TX packets 157560 bytes 65731010 (62.6 MiB)
>> TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
>>
>> $ /sbin/route
>
> not found, even with a sudo preface for both of them.
>
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
>> Iface default router 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0
>> 0 wlp2s0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0
>> 0 0 wlp2s0 $
>>
>> > So I've zero network troubleshooting tools when booted to stretch.
>> > And you are giving me what for, but zero help.
>> >
>> > So show me a tut which I can use to make it work, Mike.
>>
>> O'Really? Gene, meet google. Google, meet Gene. There are whole tomes
>> of this stuff which are downloadable in slightly frayed editions.
>> I've posted references to one or two, generally under Owlett threads.
>
> I'll have to go back and look, might even have one or two marked
> important.
>
>> Cheers,
>
> Take care David.
>
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