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Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Wed 18 Oct 2017 at 19:22:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă composed on 2017-10-18 20:47 (UTC+0200):
> > I never understood the need for desktop managers. I use Debian since
> > hamm and Linux/Unix since 1995. My take is that desktop managers are
> > for people more used to microsoft OS'. Why do I need to click on
> > something when the xterm I type in can call any program I need?... 
> Finding a wanted app to run from a classified tree list of 30 or 40 or 50 or
> more applications is easier for most people than remembering the name and any
> required startup options to type, both for those uncommonly used, and even for
> the commonly used ones if there are more than a scant few such. 2 or 3 or 4
> clicks to start one up is typically easier than typing 4, 5, 6, 7 or more
> characters, or searching command history more than a few entries back.

Do you need a DE to do that? What's the difference between that and
the Debian menus that I occasionally use?

> It's a
> nice bonus in some DEs that automatically remember and reopen apps, their
> content states, and their window sizes and positions.

That's more debatable. Some people like that, some like me prefer
a particular setup whenever I start X, some use Place with Mouseclick,
etc. But there appear to be separate packages to handle this, like
lxsession and devilspie.

> For some, the microscopic default text size and fractional default proportion of
> screen area (80x25, using as little as 1/16 or less of total screen space) of
> xterm windows impedes their use for anything.

I've seen reports of fonts getting tinier as resolutions increase,
and not just on linux. I don't know how hard or easy it is to provide
sensible defaults for every application on every system, and in any
case circumstances vary. People with poor sight want large characters,
others want more characters on the screen. In the specific case of
xterm, I want and have both, and different fonts too, just by setting
different commandline options and Xresources. I can change them on
the fly too, as I can also for VCs. I don't degrade the resolution
to make them bigger (as suggested earlier in the month). It's mainly
just a matter at looking at configurations.


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