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> On Mar 17, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There are plenty of dumbed down Debian derivatives for those that want them.  
> Please don't let's dumb Debian down any further.  Base install means base 
> install.  The net install disk by default installs Gnome (I have on occasion 
> gone to sleep and failed to prevent it).  Some WANT a base install and should 
> be able to have it easily.  You are describing Ubuntu or Mint. Ubuntu and 
> Mint exist.

No, Lisi, I don't mean like Mint or Ubuntu. My point was only that beginners can accidentally do a base install only, not knowing what a base install is, and that knowing what they did to cause it and fixing it is not something a beginner can easily do. 

My very first Linux installation was in 1993, a Slackware disc that came free in Wired or PCMagazine. It installed successfully, and there I was looking at a blank screen. I knew 2 things instantly: that the installation was a success, and that I had no idea what command might invoke a graphic interface, if one existed. Or what any Linux command might be. 

I gave up on Linux for a few years, until 1999 and my horrific Red Hat 6.0 experience. I moved on to Debian in mere months, switching to the derivatives when Debian did not support my hardware. (Which was regularly) But I clearly remember that first Linux experience and that disheartening blank screen. 

I agree it is important to be able to get a base install if you want one, but you can do that manually simply by backing out of the installation script after the reboot. It is more important to not intimidate the beginner. We were all a beginner once.

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