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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?



On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 17:22:34 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 20:26:45 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 19:31:08 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > 
> > > Just out of interest, why have you sent a personal copy of a reply to the 
> > > Debian list about an email of David Wright's to me, which is an irrelevant 
> > > flouting of the code of conduct rules??? ;-)  It's not like you Brian to make 
> > > Human Errors. ;-)
> > 
> > So I did. Apologies.
> > 
> > I make errors all the time; I just fight a good rearguard action. :) But
> > not this time; surrender is the honorable course of action.
> > 
> > 2016-08-30 18:45:35 1ben6M-0008JJ-JK => lisi.reisz@gmail.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [64.233.167.26] X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128 DN="C=US,ST=California,L=Mountain View,O=Google Inc,CN=mx.google.com" C="250 2.0.0 OK 1472579135 u10si39132321wje.183 - gsmtp"
> > 2016-08-30 18:45:50 1ben6M-0008JJ-JK => debian-user@lists.debian.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=bendel.debian.org [82.195.75.100] X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128 DN="C=NA,ST=NA,L=Ankh Morpork,O=Debian SMTP,OU=Debian SMTP CA,CN=bendel.debian.org,EMAIL=hostmaster@bendel.debian.org" C="250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 147DD63"
> > 2016-08-30 18:45:50 1ben6M-0008JJ-JK Completed
> > 
> > I must have hit "r" or "g" in mutt. Damn these two bottles of wine. :)
> 
> The error might have been mine. I think I CC'd Lisi in error.
> The other list I'm on expects people to group-reply.
> I forgot myself. Sorry if I caused confusion by appearing
> to send a personal email when it was public (if this is all
> about <[🔎] 20160830161810.GA8604@alum>).

The cavalry arrives - but hours late :); I should have stuck to my
rearguard policy. But thanks for the intervention. It turns out I did
hit "L" and not "r" or "g".

Additionally, I have learned a little more about mutt's behaviour.

 <list-reply> (default: L)

    Reply to the current or tagged message(s) by extracting any addresses which
    match the regular expressions given by the lists or subscribe commands, but
    also honor any Mail-Followup-To header(s) if the $honor_followup_to
    configuration variable is set. In addition, the List-Post header field is
    examined for mailto: URLs specifying a mailing list address. Using this
    when replying to messages posted to mailing lists helps avoid duplicate
    copies being sent to the author of the message you are replying to.

Your mail had a Mail-Followup-To header to debian-user and Lisi Reisz. I
think it was this rather than the Cc that got me a telling off.

> > > I tried to send this to you personally, by both routes readily available to 
> > > me, but your email set-up kept rejecting it.  So here is my (mild) protest 
> > > publicly. ;-)
> > 
> > What were the two readily available routes open to you? Which addresses?
> 
> I, too, have failed to email you, Brian, on one occasion recently.
> I used just the email address that is normally in your From: header.

The address is valid and one I am entitled to use. However, it looks
like my ISP has fouled something up and rendered it useless. I'll have
to have a think about what to do about this.

Meanwhile, if it is something urgent (like giving me money), my other
mail headers provide a working address.


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