Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages
On Monday 19 December 2016 18:58:43 Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:38:51 +0100
>
> Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote:
> > On 2016-12-16 18:06:26 +0000, Joe wrote:
> > > Do you have X running?
> >
> > Not always.
> >
> > > I use Synaptic in these situations, where it is easy to try packages
> > > to see what can be upgraded without removals I'm not willing to
> > > accept.
> >
> > But that's not automatic (aptitude can also do that, and one can
> > undo a choice if it yields removals).
>
> Difficult to see how it could be automated, as sometimes it's a value
> judgement as to whether to temporarily sacrifice application x in order
> to upgrade y immediately, or whether to wait a while. Occasionally, a
> package is removed permanently, and there's no obvious way of
> differentiating such a removal from a temporary dependency issue
> without resorting to a search engine.
>
> And I know that aptitude can do all kinds of amazing things in
> interactive mode, but I have some kind of mental block about it. I've
> tried learning it two or three times, and it seems to be just about as
> counter-intuitive to operate as anything possibly can be. I have
> nothing against curses programs, I use mc in preference to other file
> managers for admin work on my workstation, which does run X at all
> times. I just don't get on with aptitude.
aptitude can do a lot on the cli. I don't get on with n-curses programs.
That's not to say that you personally would like it any better, of course,
but one doesn't have to use n-curses to use aptitude.
Lisi
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