wireless without network-manager... is it still possible?

[Britton Kerin <britton.kerin@gmail.com>]

somehow network-manager makes it work.  But I've had it with gnome, and none
of the command line tools or references I've found work.  That
includes /etc/network/interfaces,
direct use of ifconfig,iw,ip,rfkill,wpa_supplicant,dhclient, and
wicd-client (though it's not really what I want.

Is this even still possible or have the systemd assholes decided we
shouldn't be doing it?

I believe the problem with the traditional wpa_supplicatn approach is
related to syslog entries like
these:

May 21 17:00:06 debian kernel: iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: can't access the
RSA semaphore it is write protected

But as I say somehow network-manager makes it work.

I just got a new laptop after 10 years, I didn't realize how bad the
situation has become with systemd udev gnome etc.

Britton