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Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key



On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 11 Feb 2016 at 10:49:43 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, David Wright wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue 09 Feb 2016 at 09:00:50 (-0800), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016, Me wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 13:50 -0800, Patrick Bartek a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12
> > > > > > -- was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted
> > > > > > manually. What a pain.  And if you unplugged without
> > > > > > unmounting . . .  Yes, things could break. But with Wheezy
> > > > > > which I've been using for 3+ years have had no problems with
> > > > > > just plug/unplug. The only precaution is to check the drive
> > > > > > activity light isn't flickering.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just because you didn't lose data doesn't mean it's safe. All
> > > > > systems are known to use caching, and GNOME frequently informs
> > > > > me, after having asked to unmount my key, that I shouldn't
> > > > > unplug it until it has finished to write data on it.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I know about caching, but on my system read/writes to
> > > > removable devices are almost instantaneous.  So, there's been
> > > > no problems. However, I did write my on udev rule to do the
> > > > mounting/unmounting, and this was after reseaching expert
> > > > advice on how to do it properly.
> > > 
> > > Apart from not pulling the plug early, what pitfalls are you
> > > avoiding with your carefully crafted udev rule?
> > 
> > In 3 years of use, I've experienced no problems.  Why does no one
> > believe me? And as far as "carefully crafted,"  I just modified a
> > rule that was designed exclusively for flash/thumb drives by
> > following the "manual."
> 
> I didn't express any disbelief. I've pulled the plug accidently on

That was a theatrical aside, not a comment directed at you specifically.

> occasion and usually find it unmounts ok so long as I haven't tried to
> use the missing device (which can be as simple as switching panes in
> mc).
>
> But I was interested in your rule because I haven't touched
> /etc/udev/rules.d/ except to clean stale entries when swapping
> NICs or optical drives. Again, you write "you should do some research
> on udev and writing rules yourself", but I prefer learning by example
> rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.

In a reply to another, I posted a link on writing such a rule.  It
gives an example.  An excellent one.  Or you could just investigate
using the utilities udisks and udisks-glue which handle automounting of
removable media.  No rules to write.

B


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