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Re: Okay, that's too much now!

On 09/05/2015 09:40 PM, Glenn English wrote:
On Sep 5, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Erik Lauritsen <eriklauritsen@yandex.com> wrote:

I have been a Debian user for more than 15 years, when the "war" about systemd broke out I mostly ignored it, I just removed systemd from my systems because I don't like the implementation.

Today I was setting up a new Debian system and wanted to remove systemd only to find our that the old tools "bsdutils" has been made dependent upon libsystemd0

"This package contains the bare minimum of BSD utilities needed for a Debian system: logger, renice, script, scriptreplay, and wall. The remaining standard BSD utilities are provided by bsdmainutils."

What the freaking !#¤"#¤"¤#"#%" are people doing!?

Why the hell has this collections of utilities from FreeBSD been made dependent upon libsystemd0!?!?!?

Freedom of choice my ass!
Lotsa freedom. One of my boxes is doing a major install of FreeBSD as we speak, so I can see if I can live with it. So far it seems a lot like Debian, except for iptables, the way their equivalent of /etc/init.d is done, and the funny names they call things in /dev...

The last time I looked--about 6 months ago--FreeBSD requires a file system that is not compatible with Linux or Windows; nothing can communicate with it. Has that changed? Or is there a way to install FreeBSD on an ext4 or NTFS file system, or some other fs that Linux can read? I'd like to try it out, but not at the expense of having a disk that nothing else can read, including GParted.


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