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Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments



Ahoj,

Dňa Sat, 3 May 2014 18:29:47 +0100 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> napísal:

> On Sat 03 May 2014 at 16:51:38 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday 03 May 2014 16:26:08 Brian wrote:
> > > A novice wouldn't even know the hoops were at hand
> > 
> > We all have our own ways of getting round it or living with it.
> > None of these would be easy for a novice.
> 
> That is much too generalised for my taste. A non-free issue such as
> firmware in d-i is well documented in the Manual. It may be a bit of a
> pain but it is the way to go. Easy or not there is a route to follow
> and someone new to Debian really has no cause for complaint.

Cca one year ago i installed Debian into one notebook. The Debian
(testing) freezes in time network initialization/settings. After some
inspection i found, that if freezes while loading the driver (kernel
module) - i forgot exactly driver/module name, but it was for BCM4313
WiFi adapter. Then i switch to installer's console (before network
settings take place) and blacklist this module, to installer can
continue and end own job. After installing particular firmware i can
reenable the module and WiFi works as expected.

Perhaps i was doing something wrong, but IMHO this is not good way,
nor direction. Adding firmware on the USB key is situation from Win
XP's time – more than 10 years ago, not solution for these days,
especially no for netinst, where the most of SW installation is done
online.

One can tell, that first is needed to test the HW by the Live CD, but
in Live CD all works! I didn't inspect why, but perhaps there are more
things installed in Live CD as in netinst CD (which is my preferred
method to install testing).

Why there is not a option to allow to add nonfree repo in installer and
thus allow to load necessary drivers in early stage of the installation?
Perhaps only in expert mode... Yes, this can expect some manual reading
to find this solution (if ti will be exist), but once again - loading
drivers from separate media is step back in time.

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk

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