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Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely



On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> Here's mine:-
>> troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob
> 
> :D
> 
> We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against
> systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users
> wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against systemd, but around
> 51 % were pro systemd. Nowadays it makes live easier for all of us who
> use several different distros, when _all_ or at least the most important
> distros will switch to systemd. To discuss pros and cons of systemd a
> time machine is needed, to go back more than 3 years ago. To discuss it
> in 2014 is a little bit to late.
> 
> 

Same with Debian based on what I read, the vote was fairly evenly split,
which is why it went to the Technical Committee, who were also fairly
evenly split.

My concern is that it's a divisive issue that would be tempting for
third parties to exacerbate and exploit. Commercial software vendors,
and the companies that do their "marketing" and "public relation" might
want to take advantage of the situation to reduce the market share they
lose to Debian (and Linux as a whole). It wouldn't be that far from the
sort of dirty tactics they've employed in the past.
And then there's NSA (and the companies they outsource to) - they *do*
have an agenda that would be furthered by creating divisions and
uncertainty in Debian. They've made large investments in software hooked
to the existing init system - and while they'll have to retool to use
systemd it doesn't mean they have the same access required to replace
existing malware installations, additionally they would probably enjoy
seeing less people use Debian.

I'm not saying the OP is a shill/disinformation/agent provocateur - just
because it looks like a duck, paddles like a duck, and has it's head
hidden, doesn't mean it is a duck. Could be just a decoy.

Even though the spooks do like the French Guinea TLD and get their
scripts from PsyOps... just a thought, probably paranoia on my part.

Kind regards


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