Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely
On Sunday, March 02, 2014 01:34:20 AM Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > Here's mine:-
> > troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob
> :
> :D
>
> We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against
> systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users
> wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against systemd, but around
> 51 % were pro systemd. Nowadays it makes live easier for all of us who
> use several different distros, when _all_ or at least the most important
> distros will switch to systemd. To discuss pros and cons of systemd a
> time machine is needed, to go back more than 3 years ago. To discuss it
> in 2014 is a little bit to late.
I'm a very happy Arch user. And I admit at first even I had a little resistance
to the systemd idea because at that time I hadn't seen it really proven yet. I
had found myself wary because I had been burned almost every time I used Pulse
Audio. (I could go on for ages of why I think PA should die in a fire, but I'll
spare you.)
I've also had some negative experiences with Avahi I won't get into here.
Then I finally did the systemd switch. Liked how fast it made things and how
much easier it made perusing events that happened on my system through the
journal and the fact it can tell me the states of all my units. It makes
figuring out why <INSERT DAEMON HERE> did not run as expected.
Then I did research into more of why the change was made and found it even
nicer than the traditional BSD-style init Arch used previously, found it was
trivial to look into unit files instead of having to decypher initscripts.
I say kudos to the Arch devs for implementing systemd. And kudos to Debian for
actually wading through all the non-technical fearmongering people have about
systemd and actually sticking to the facts about systemd and why it's a
better, if not best, choice for Linux right now.
Conrad
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