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Re: embrace, extend, extinguish




On 09/03/2014 12:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 9/3/14, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 02 September 2014 17:06:58 Steve Litt wrote:
So, Lisi, is it your contention that the developers don't look at this
list, and don't care what's written on it?
By and large, yes.  If you want to communicate with developers, communicate

with developers.  Some of them hang around here.  But it is not the way to
communicate with them.  Don't deafen poor defenseless users. This list is
for
support of users, not the lobbying of developers.  There are other lists.

OK, guys. What is the best way to communicate with developers, not just
in the Debian crew, but devs from other popular systems, like Ubuntu,
PCLOS, Centos, etc.

BTW: I get the impression that the most serious charge against the
systemd people is not that systemd is different, or even that it subsumes
other files and apps that up to now were free-standing, but that it
makes the entire system more difficult if not impossible to troubleshoot,
due to the tremendous interdependence of apps, plus the lack of
readable logs. But I'm not a dev, maybe I'm wrong.

--doug


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