ZennanYeahrp, def'nitely tha end of Debian! It really is a sad, sad day. None of: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd was in the slightest convincing ... barely even interesting. Thank you! Finally someone has bother to post a link to the whole debate behind this. Apologies is this was posted before and I missed it. Gotta laugh at the " irrelevant political stances" statement. Yeah, like whatever Iain |