Re: putty login - running gnu screen causes putty console to shrink
Dang gmail again. I'll have to slow down when I reply, gotta make sure
of the reply-all...
On 7/21/14, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
> On 7/20/14, Jason C. Taylor <jason@infinitebubble.com> wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Powell" <zlinuxman@wowway.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:31:42 AM
>>
>>> That's interesting. I've never encountered this, as I don't use the
>>> "screen" package. If I need multiple terminal sessions, I just launch
>>> multiple
>>> PuTTY sessions. I guess I don't see the need for screen.
>
> Oh, there are so many benefits - detaching background processes
> is one. Tex-based "tabs" makes for more consoles in one window.
This should have been 'Text-based "tabs" makes...'
> And I'm sure others have their favourites. Needs customizing
> though, to get to The Sweet Spot(TM)(C)(R).
>
>>> But in any
>>> case,
>>> I don't understand the design of screen. Why does it need an external
>>> definition of terminal type characteristics in a configuration file?
>>> Why doesn't it rely on the terminfo information stored in ncurses?
>>>
>>> In any case, I'm glad you found a solution.
>>
>> I don't have the details, but I've read recently on some other
>> list...FreeBSD questions probably...that screen does very strange things.
>> Sorry, I don't know any of the details on exactly what "very strange
>> things"
>> means. Tmux, http://tmux.sourceforge.net/, was sited as an alternative.
>> I
>> find it more cumbersome to use, but, unlike screen, I've had zero issues
>> while using it.
>
> Are there limitations, or what do you mean by cumbersome?
>
> I've wondered a few times about tmux, but being a creature
> of habit, I find screen adequate to my needs, albeit very weird
> configuration that I mostly don't understand, but works.
On 7/21/14, Jason C. Taylor <jason@infinitebubble.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zenaan Harkness" <zen@freedbms.net>
>> To: "Jason C. Taylor" <jason@infinitebubble.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 12:42:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: putty login - running gnu screen causes putty console to
>> shrink
>>>
>>> I don't have the details, but I've read recently on some other
>>> list...FreeBSD questions probably...that screen does very strange
>>> things.
>>> Sorry, I don't know any of the details on exactly what "very strange
>>> things"
>>> means. Tmux, http://tmux.sourceforge.net/, was sited as an alternative.
>>> I
>>> find it more cumbersome to use, but, unlike screen, I've had zero issues
>>> while using it.
>>
>> Are there limitations, or what do you mean by cumbersome?
>>
>> I've wondered a few times about tmux, but being a creature
>> of habit, I find screen adequate to my needs, albeit very weird
>> configuration that I mostly don't understand, but works.
>
> It's just that I'm used to screen. I've used it for years and there's a
You and me both.
> limited number of things I've ever wanted to do, so I know all the key
> combinations and command line switches that I want to use without thinking
> about them. Tmux is all new and my fingers don't know what to do to
> accomplish what my brain wants them to. ;-) I'm also nervous about
> disconnecting and reattaching sessions. I *know* screen works, but I'm not
> so sure about tmux. Again, just a familiarity/comfort thing.
When I first looked at tmux it was still beta-ish. Dunno what the
official situation is now, but again, screen does the job.
'When I was a child, we were _lucky_ to have a terminal, let alone a
multiplexing re/detachable thing'. Hacking simcity by hex-editing the
disk bytes for your "money" made the game more indulgent too. First
time I got frustrated enough to search the disk, money was just a hex
version of the decimal value of money - jackpot! That was a satisfying
day.
Regarding Jochen's email - that was indeed meant to be a goat^Wjoke.
Regards,
Zenan
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