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Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:43 PM, The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> On 07/21/2014 04:24 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> I decided to do a search on "systemd openbsd" to see what reaction
>> those friendly guys over there have, and I discovered the list of
>> projects the openbsd team offered to mentor in this year's GSOC.
> Link?



And I'm deliberately not just linking one or three items because
working through the links that search brings up is probably one of the
best ways to get a really sharp focus on just exactly what the
arguments over systemd are all about.

(Buried in there is a clue that is probably about as important as any:
Does openbsd use sysvinit or upstart or something else?)

If the vicissitudes of linkage lose the stuff about GSOC, just add it
to the search terms:


>> Whether the student who decided to take on the modularization of
>> systemd, to break all the gratuitous dependencies, succeeds or not,
>> it's clear that this is another of the messes we've created here in
>> Linuxland that they are going to try to help us clean up.
> I seem to recall having read (I think here on this list) that it's been
> explicitly stated by systemd upstream that patches to make the "core
> components" not depend on one another will not be accepted.

The openbsd team has no qualms about forking and/or replacing stuff
that is contrary to good engineering principles. The modularization
they are working on is for their own use. It will still likely be a
very useful starting point for the debian devs, when they get the

Joel Rees

Be careful where you see conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart.

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