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Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

On Du, 20 iul 14, 14:40:27, Erwan David wrote:
> Add to this the fact it throws away years of habits with yet another
> language (yes the systemd unit files are nit shellscripts but they use a
> specific language mre complicated to understand thant shell scripts,

You must be confusing systemd unit files with something else:


Description=Music Player Daemon
After=network.target sound.target

ExecStart=/usr/bin/mpd --no-daemon $MPDCONF


This is the classic .ini format, very easy to read without having any 
knowledge of shell scripting (or any other programing language).

> without all literature one can find on shell scripting, and without a
> proper introduction and migration doc). It is not tested in real field

Do you mean something like the Release Notes? Work on them usually only 
starts around the freeze (which will happen on 2014-11-05).

> before being imposed to everybody, and it is still lacks features
> because it is thought only for the dresktop whose user is also the admin
> : no feature of cebtralised configuration for a parc, no advantage for
> servers, and returns are ugly (see people saying switching to systemd
> made the shutdown of their computer take several minutes, without any
> answer since nobody except the zealots who refuse to acknowledge the
> problems knows how to debug).
> systemd may have advantages but the change is much too fast, untested
> and will lead to big problems that many of us cannot afford.
You're aware of course that Debian is one of the last big distros to 
switch to systemd, with the notable exception of Ubuntu (who was using 
upstart anyway).


Kind regards,
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