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Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd



On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:29:23 +0200
Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> wrote:

> On 2014-07-18 17:21 +0200, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> > The other thing is, a lot of people thought the current init system
> > was working just fine.
> 
> They should read the mail[1] by one of its maintainers which states
> that it was (and is) _not_ "working just fine", and that a
> replacement has long been overdue.
> 
> Cheers,
>        Sven

That's nice.

I've used Linux every day since March 2001, and I never had a problem
with the way it booted or initialized, other than Grub2. Until this
systemd thing came up, I never heard an *actual Linux user* gripe about
its init, although of course the pro-Microsoft and pro-Apple folks
griped about it all the time.

Some guy writing an email about all the theoretical flaws in a product
doesn't make the product flawed for the millions who boot their
computers with it everyday, and never give it another thought. The few
who really have a problem with the way Linux inits up could have been
given upstart or systemd or, for that matter, daemontools as an
alternative, without affecting the vast majority who saw absolutely no
problem with the way it had been done.

And finally, note that the guy's email doesn't specifically recommend
systemd, and as a matter of fact seems to gravitate toward upstart,
which has a long history of doing the right thing and is known by many.
And although his email doesn't talk about user space *applications*
getting entangled the init system, I have a feeling he wasn't
envisioning rank and file applications requiring parts of the init
system.

SteveT

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