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Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?



On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:52:37 +0900
Osamu Aoki <osamu_aoki_home@nifty.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 08:31:50PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit
> > install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went
> > into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and
> > required lightdm was LXDE. I uninstalled LXDE, installed Xfce,
> > installed whatever bestows startx, and bang, X from the CLI command
> > line, no *dm needed.
> 
> I think you should learn to use aptitude to look-into Debian's
> resources.  

Cool. I'll do that next weekend. I've used apt-get or synaptic until
now, but obviously I need finer granularity.

> Here are the answer by running aptitude.
> 
> > 1) Am I correct that Debian's LXDE package installs lightdm?
> 
> It depends on what yopu mean by "LXDE package".  
> 
> If you mean "task-lxde-desktop", yes it is "depends".
> 
> If you mean "lxde", practically yes since it is "recommends".
> 
> > 2) Does that come from the LXDE project, or is it a Debian thing?
> 
>   Homepage: https://launchpad.net/lightdm
>   http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM/

ROFLMAO, I need to improve my English (which is my native language).
What I *meant* to say was "does the *dependency* come from lxde, or
does the *dependency* come from Debian.

> 
> > 3) Is there a way to turn off LXDE's install of lightdm?
> 
> If you chose "lxde", you install without recommends.  That is easy
> with aptitude and apt-gey can do that via command line.  Read the
> manual pages of them.

I'll be doing that next weekend.

> 
> > The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away
> > from both Plymouth and *dm. Fortunately, I find LXDE desireable,
> > but no way do I find it necessary.
> 
> You can go less with bare Openbox window manager :-)

If you like Openbox, you'll love my ultimate destination: dwm! But when
I'm first installing a computer and getting all the functionalities
working, including hundreds of home-grown shellscripts, python, perl,
ruby and lua programs, I like a user interface that gives me more
context.

Later, when my interface is merely a way to run programs, I switch to
something like Openbox or dwm.

Thanks Osamu,

SteveT

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