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Re: IP Blocked in forum.debian.net



On 10/03/14 19:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 19:04 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> If you are posting from your own computer you are probably being false
>> flagged because your external IP address is dynamic
> 
> Hm? Sure the IP will change when reconnecting, but doesn't the IP
> include information?

Do you mean "isn't the IP address associated with other information?" -
like MAC address and some info about the software running on the modem?
Yes - but the anti-spam software in question doesn't use that  - just
the IP address (and possibly the email address).

> 
> I was thinking of this too, but isn't the IP related to the country and
> to the provider?

Yes.
But I'm guessing you mean "isn't the blocking based on country and
provider?" In which case - no. Fortunately, Those geo-blocking (racially
biased?) anti-spam measures are useless. Block all China, block all
Russia, etc are as useful as block all Comcast, or block all gmail etc -
far too many false positives (about all those approaches reliably do is
confirm the biases of the operator, IMO).

"Generally" the problem is a large number of spam posts/accounts created
for spamming from a (relatively) small number of IP addresses.

> IOW could it be that the IP does inform about the
> provider and that the provider is blackhole listed

In this instance, generally no (there are a very small number of
"provider" address blocks that are blackbanned).

Advance Block MOD uses stopforumspam and other verified spam lists as
the main basis for blocking (it's a very versatile utility).

> or could this only
> happen for email addresses?

No, it 'could' happen for both. I'm wary of trying to answer for all
situations - so call that a guess. I'm also taking the OP's "I'm not
spamming" at face value, "assuming" that the OP has exclusive control of
that email address, and that the email address hasn't previously been
flagged as "spamming" elsewhere (may not mean it actually was spamming -
just marked as spam).

> 
> Btw. one way to fake an IP:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/anonymox/

Yes - however spammers know about free proxies - so they're probably of
limited usefulness in this instance.

Kind regards


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