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Re: testing wants to install systemd



On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM, James Allsopp
<jamesaallsopp@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 20 November 2013 10:00, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
>> On 11/20/13, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> My apologies Slavko, I'll rephrase it, the state of Debian's testing
>>> initscripts/systemd seems to be neither fish nor fowl. When I
>>> experienced this on Arch Linux during the transition from initscripts to
>>> systemd, I didn't use it for perhaps 1 year and then, when the
>>> transition was finished, there wasn't the choice to use initscripts or
>>> systemd anymore, I installed a new Arch Linux.
>>>
>>> Switching from initscripts to systemd was the only transition ever, that
>>> caused issues for me and I'm still not friend with systemd.
>>
>> OK, so Arch transition was handled sub-optimally for you.
>>
>>> since anything else but the
>>> speed of booting is a step in the wrong direction, instead of human
>>> readable scripts, one big binary blob, associated with the name Lennart
>>> P.. Seriously, systemd is crap,
>>
>> Ralph, please write a constructive "problem" and not a
>> "ad-hominem against software attack" non-argument.
>>
>> Especially, if you have a personal particular crappiness about
>> systemd, which perhaps you disagree about something here:
>>
>> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
>>
>> then that would be much more constructive to useful discussion.
>
> From a casual perusal of the lists systemd, seems to be getting a reputation
> as one of the those projects to avoid like pulse-audio and mono, but the
> link you sent sounds more reasonable. Is there a good balanced discussion
> anywhere?

Please bottom post.

LOL

systemd and "balanced discussion" are (unfortunately) incompatible.

LOL


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