Re: testing wants to install systemd
On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 09:08 +0100, Slavko wrote:
> Please, how useful are Arch's things for me as Debian user?
My apologies Slavko, I'll rephrase it, the state of Debian's testing
initscripts/systemd seems to be neither fish nor fowl. When I
experienced this on Arch Linux during the transition from initscripts to
systemd, I didn't use it for perhaps 1 year and then, when the
transition was finished, there wasn't the choice to use initscripts or
systemd anymore, I installed a new Arch Linux.
Switching from initscripts to systemd was the only transition ever, that
caused issues for me and I'm still not friend with systemd.
Fortunately only one user on this list fears to run an upgrade of Debian
testing, since it seems not to be usual that the upgrade does pull in
systemd, but the assumption that it's a dependency is plausible and
those dependencies from upstrem will cause a lot of work, when Debian
continues to separate udev from systemd and enables to use initscripts
or systemd.
I decided to use my tower PC as a mobile device, so that it makes sense
to install systemd and I have a cron job running, rebooting every 2
hours, to see the big advantage of systemd, since anything else but the
speed of booting is a step in the wrong direction, instead of human
readable scripts, one big binary blob, associated with the name Lennart
P.. Seriously, systemd is crap, but using it anyway, in the end will
cause less issues, since some guys made it a new Linux standard.
IMO it's better to live with systemd's disadvantages, to switch as early
as possible to a clean systemd, than to hope that it will be possible to
stay with initscripts. Big brother already decided, that initscripts is
dead. A long time ago, most other distros already switched.
Regards,
Ralf
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