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Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)





Le 19.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.morel@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it does seem to be a fact of life). A lot of people also seem to be writing stored SQL procedures to run on MS SQL.


Bad guess.  .NET is way down the list of popularity (much to
Microsoft's chagrin).  COBOL is still number 1; C/C++ still way
surpass .NET.  And MSSQL is well behind MySQL in the number of
installations (I think Oracle is still #1 with DB2 #2).

I wonder where did you had those numbers?
Usually, in various studies, COBOL is not even in the 5 firsts. I do
not say that those studies are pertinent, they are obviously not,
since their methods always shows problems. But, it does not means that
they are completely wrong, and I mostly use them as very vague
indicators.
So, I would like were you had your indicators, I may find that
interesting for various reasons.

Yeah.  I kind of quesiton those numbers as well.


As I said - Parks Associates - a well known and respected research firm.

The sources I tend to check:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

This one is quite funny, I know it. That's not the only one I know, of course, but it is the quoted one when someone wants to troll a bit about languages popularity.

http://langpop.com/
both have C and Java shooting it out for top spot

http://trendyskills.com/ (analysis of job postings)
has JavaScript, Java, and C# battling it out

COBOL is in the noise.


Do you really think PC job boards are a good indication of what
languages are most used?

Most used? No.
Most used to create new stuff and maintain old ones? Yes. You need people to maintain and create softwares, and you can find people with job boards. In fact, job boards can give a partial image of what is needed, in current real world. Partial, of course. But there is no way to have an exact and complete image.

COBOL is still used, but tend to disappear, you can like it or not. I spoke with 2 persons which were able to give me reports that COBOL was still used: a friend from my studies that I have met anew last year in train, and a teacher which was doing... well, good question? But at least it allowed me to see some real COBOL code for the first time. I do not mean that I have met a lot of programmers, but clearly, COBOL is not something which will last for decades.

However, do not worry for it: being #20 or better means it is a widely used language.


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