Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

[berenger.morel@neutralite.org]

Le 13.10.2013 15:40, Joel Rees a écrit :
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM,  <berenger.morel@neutralite.org> 
> wrote:
> > [...] if you think that people are free to
> > give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other 
> > are also
> > free to give the labels they want.
> > Long time ago, I studied the "dark side of computer sciences", and 
> > the first
> > things I have learn are that you can not claim to be a hacker, or 
> > elite,
> > or... If you do so, then people will name you lamer. You are a 
> > hacker if
> > other people recognize you as such.
>
> There is a difference between the three words.

Of course.

> Elite is something that truly elite people do not try to be. Nor do
> they care if they are called such. That's the irony of "l33+".
>
> Hacker is, again, not something you try to be. Either you hack or you
> hesitate. People (like me) who tend to talk tend not to hack so much.
>
> System administrator is actually a role that needs to be filled.
>
> > The truth here is simple: you are not what you want, only other 
> > people can
> > define who you really are.
>
> Which I can acknowledge is relevant about "elite hackers", but I 
> think
> it's missing the point about system administrators.
>
> If you (the general "you") own hardware that doesn't have a system
> administrator, you need to fix that situation. Maybe it means you 
> need
> to step into the role.

Being able to fit the role for minor and simple tasks does not makes 
you able to do the whole role. Installing OSes and applications in a 
end-user way is quite trivial.
sysadmin is, for me and other (I hope), someone which is of course able 
to do those minor tasks, but also to manage really more difficult ones. 
Like installing OSes and applications automatically on more than one 
computer, depending on the use of that computer (programming, writing 
for the boss, taking care of money, etc).
For example, a windows sysadmin will need to understand how active 
directory works. In other things.
This is really more complex than the basic usage. Anyway, I think the 
problem we really have in this discussion is that we do not use same 
words for same things.