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Re: Broken wheezy update with my graphics card



Brian wrote:
> Sharon Kimble wrote:
> > W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw
> > for module r8169 ... about 8 of them all saying more or less the
> > same. I've been told that I should
> ...
> The r8169 module drives an ethernet adaptor. This card was working
> before the upgrade, without firmware, we assume, so it is likely to
> continue to work after it.

Since this is the Realtek ethernet driver and I have several of those
and they seem to work fine with or without the firmware blob I agree
with you.

But in general the problem is when before an upgrade the firmware blob
is present and after an upgrade it is not present.  For example the
linux kernel in Squeeze 6 contains many firmrware blobs that were
removed in Wheezy 7.  An upgrade from Squeeze 6 to Wheezy 7 will have
the effect of *removing* many firmware blobs.  I agree that if it
wasn't there before and it was working then it will be the same
afterward.  But if it is removed during an upgrade then things might
not work.  Here is one example bug report that I filed concerning this
concerning the AMD A4-3400 APU with Radeon HD Graphics hardware.

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696571

The problem there is that previous versions of the Linux kernel
package did include the firmware blobs but later versions have them
removed into the firmware-linux-nonfree package and that the firmware
blob is required for it to operate.

> Don't bother with firmware is one option. If it is the wrong
> decision you can always install the firmware-realtek package
> afterwards to restore the adaptor to working order.

Agreed.  But specifically because the Realtek ethernet cards seem to
work fine either way.  Those are very common.  I have several.  Those
are pretty well known.  I don't doubt that the realtek firmware does
make some subtle correction that would be desirable but whatever the
changes that occur it doesn't seem catastrophic not to have it.  I
would have no qualms about proceeding without it.  The only annoyance
is seeing that message every time and separating it from other perhaps
more important messages that shouldn't be ignored.

Bob

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