Re: Not OT: systemd intermittent startup
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- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:22:40 +0000
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54:57AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> why not warn people to use something that's known for issues only?
It isn't known for issues only. There's a lot of heat and noise about
problems with systemd, that is true, but a substantial amount of that
heat and noise is posts like the one of yours I complained about:
information-free. The OP asked a support question about software you
don't use. Using systemd in Debian is not a default arrangement, so
the OP must have explicitly installed it and configured their system
to use it. You can then infer that they are reasonably well versed in
what it does, and that the OP is reasonably technically confident. In
fact I'd wager they knew a lot more about systemd than you do, since
they actually run it.
Sadly there's a self-reinforcing pattern on -user where a small group
of people post the majority of responses to queries. As the rate of
reply goes up, the value contained therein drops. The list as a whole
becomes less useful and hospitable to everyone else.
> Could you please answer this question of the OP:
> On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 19:42 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Can anyone here say they've achieved any sort of systemd joy, or am I
> > just asking for an ongoing world of hurt at the moment?
I use it and have had few problems.