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Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?



On Thu 09 Aug 2012 at 16:33:39 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:43:38 +0100, Brian wrote:
> 
> > You've already provided a major reference for the discussion which has
> > taken place on debian-devel. It included controversy (altering the
> > status quo always does) but it really does come down to size. The first
> > CD is not big enough to hold GNOME but I assume it will be on the first
> > DVD. So maybe the decision was quickly made but it didn't come from
> > nowhere. 
> 
> Well, the idea came from one mind, that's for sure :-) 

Really for sure? :)

   https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2012/05/msg00025.html

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/07/msg00115.html


>						       yet still there 
> are many questions floating in the air and not just because of the 
> decision itself but (warning, rant starts here):
> 
> 1/ The time of the change (when freeze is already in place)

Freeze exception. To accomodate GNOME or KDE on CD#1 both DEs would have
had to be cut down. More work for maintainers and complaints from users.
 
> 2/ The nature of the change (the installer is a key piece of any OS and 
> it has to be well tested and yes, I run the installer from time to time 
> in a VM to see if there's something missing or that fails)

The installer hasn't left beta-1 yet. Plenty of time left.
 
> 3/ No feedback (there can be another alternatives to XFCE)

Ratpoison?

> > The way the artwork for Wheezy was chosen also had its critics. See the
> > June archive for debian-desktop. The work is done by people who step
> > forward and surveys are not necessarily going to make that happen.
> 
> Choosing the background, banner colours "et al" and defaulting a DE from 
> the installer are not quite the same, I'd say >:-)

But the process of how the decisions are made and who makes them is the
same.


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