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Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?



On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:43:38 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Thu 09 Aug 2012 at 13:59:20 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

>> > The Debian GNOME team (or one or two of them) may not be over the
>> > moon but none of them maintain tasksel. Upstream doesn't count.
>> 
>> But one could expect the tasksel team asks about this change to the
>> rest of the involved teams (e.g., boot/cd and the others in charge of
>> the DE packages such as GNOME/KDE/XFCE/LXDE...), right? I don't mean to
>> sound rude but this seems to be a rather quick decision with little
>> debate over it.
> 
> You've already provided a major reference for the discussion which has
> taken place on debian-devel. It included controversy (altering the
> status quo always does) but it really does come down to size. The first
> CD is not big enough to hold GNOME but I assume it will be on the first
> DVD. So maybe the decision was quickly made but it didn't come from
> nowhere. 

Well, the idea came from one mind, that's for sure :-) yet still there 
are many questions floating in the air and not just because of the 
decision itself but (warning, rant starts here):

1/ The time of the change (when freeze is already in place)

2/ The nature of the change (the installer is a key piece of any OS and 
it has to be well tested and yes, I run the installer from time to time 
in a VM to see if there's something missing or that fails)

3/ No feedback (there can be another alternatives to XFCE)

> You may sympathise with this response:
> 
>    http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/08/msg00066.html

He. Yes, that's a nice one coming from Christian :-)

> The way the artwork for Wheezy was chosen also had its critics. See the
> June archive for debian-desktop. The work is done by people who step
> forward and surveys are not necessarily going to make that happen.

Choosing the background, banner colours "et al" and defaulting a DE from 
the installer are not quite the same, I'd say >:-)

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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