Re: Hardware problems -- was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:03:17 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:13:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
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>>> As I write I was doing another test install. It appeared to proceed
>>> normally up until I was instructed to remove the CD. Seems to have
>>> crashed with a bunch of error message.
>>
>> Error messages are very important :-)
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> Test procedure notes
I think the errors below are for a different install other than the
netiso, right? Okay...
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> 4. A _appeared_ to go 'normal'. Instructed to remove CD so system could
> reboot. Hung with a long list
> of what were apparently error messages
Any snapshot of those? As I said, the kind of the errors you get is
important. It can be from harmless (CD media read-seek errors) to serious
(packages not being properly installed or a hardware problem...).
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> 9. Debian LXDE install
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> LOL ----- seems to work ;/
Okay.
> next day ;)
>
> 12. Attempted to boot the LXDE just installed in "rescue" mode - it hung
> apparently waiting for the built in touch pad. Powered off
Mmm... right after the install, it's better that you login into the
system and proceed with a full update (if you are in "stable"), there can
be many bugs or problems that could have been solved afterwards. This, of
course, does not apply for a "testing" system due to its rolling update
nature but yet it is better that you first login as usual into the
recently installed OS and setup a basic configuration.
> 13. Attempted boot same LXDE but in "normal" mode.
Good :-)
> It hung.
At what point? What was printed in the screen?
> But 3 lines up I noticed instruction to hit Cntl-D to proceed.
> I did. It did ;]
Ctrl+D will give yu the busybox/maintenance console, you can run some
basic command and check for the existance of files, review the logs...
you can do some work from here.
> 14. Repeated Step 3. This time it failed at the same point but without
> displaying any messages.
Nothing in your monitor? :-?
> 15. Powered off and rebooted. Appeared normal accepting user password.
> However it rejected root's password when attempting to access "Root
> Terminal" under "Accessories" sub-menu. Other installs seem to act
> normally.
If you configured sudo, you will be asked for the user password instead
root's one.
> I've seen root's password being rejected before. It was what prompted me
> to remove Windows Vista Home edition and follow the steps just listed.
?
I wonder what kind of odd relation do you see in having a problem with
your root's password and Windows Vista >:-?
For the root password issue you can run more tests, for instance, opening
a terminal and "su -", to see what happens.
> CONCLUSION: I've some flaky hardware.
Mmm... I'm not that sure, at least for the kind of the problems you have
described it does not lead to me to think of a hardware problem (at least
not exclusively) , there's not enough information to prove that point.
> After warranty period, used computers are definitely "caveat emptor".
> With 4 Linuxes now installed, I still have only one SWAP partition -
> proves at least one problem was "operator error" ;!
Warranty is a delusion, I never bother about it anymore and prefer to
always buy for good, well designed, well manufactured, well engineered
hardware components :-)
Greetings,
--
Camaleón
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