Julien Claassen wrote: > So let's talk about Orca. :-) Orca as in gnome-orca the screen reader? > I found, that Orca is no longer available in wheezy and an > installation of Squeeze's GNOME+Orca reulted in a lot of problems, > which I could understand before. Yes, problems. I don't know about Wheezy but the dependencies are broken in Sid right now. > Still, this is a bloody nonsense. :-) It is always annoying when software working perfectly in one release is broken due to dependency issues. But people are the problem. Ask ten people about different systems and I regret to acknowledge that more of them will want the newest fluff and glitter and choose it over functionality and long term stability. It is the populace at large that causes the breakage. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. > Now I might have to install Ubuntu, which has the latest Orca, but > which I don't like as a distro. You have to? Why do you have to? > and I wouldn't want to chance having Ubuntu repositories > included in a Debian system. Agreed. That way leads to madness. > At the moment my Squeeze here is running very, very reliably and I > don't want to give it up. Right. It is a production release. It is stable. It has security support. Sounds great. Use it all of the time. > But on that other computer I will now have to reinstall my system. That "other computer" is the problem? That sounds like a movie plot. Why will you have to reinstall your system on that "other computer"? By your statement it implies that you believe Squeeze won't work on your other computer? Why not? > Still it's mildly understated: very surprising, that Orca > support has vanished. Is it due to maintainers or policy? Might we > expect to see Orca yet? I know nothing of the details but gnome-orca has "gnome" in the name. The gnome 2 branch of the family tree was killed by the gnome 3 branch of the family. This is rather like the cuckoo that lays an egg parasitically in the nest of a different unsuspecting bird species. The egg hatches and the bigger more agressive cuckoo bird kills the original hatchlings and eggs and is raised by the preyed upon host species. In a similar way gnome 3 has killed most of the gnome 2 ecosystem. > I just want to knw, so I will know, what to expect in future and > where to turn. If I have to look for a new distro, I'd rather start > now, when it isn't yet too pressing. It is still a long time until Wheezy releases. There is no indicate one way or the other about whether gnome-orca will be in wheezy or not. It is too early to tell. I think you should be patient and wait and see. A lot can happen in a year. Bob
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