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Re: sources.list directory specification

On 02/09/11 19:37, Dejan Ribič wrote:
Dne 02. 09. 2011 07:19, piše Scott Ferguson:
On 02/09/11 03:06, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM,<rlharris@hal-pc.org>   wrote:


I'd be cautious about enabling backports, proposed, and, especially,
multimedia - except on a case-by-case basis (enable when needed,
install only what cannot be got from the standard repo, disable when



   well I've been using the backports and proposeds for awhile now and
everything works perfectly, besides Debian Backports are official part
of Debian as far as I know, so there is at least some QA involved, I think.



Please don't be offended, it's not a criticism of your choices, or implying that those (backports and proposed) repositories are full of flakey packages. Multimedia is not flakey either *but* it will cause problems unless you are careful.

Backports are (often) rebuilt to use libraries they were not designed for (they are a compromise)[*1], Proposed is just that (in *testing* for the point release). Most of the time you won't have problems, and if you do, it'll usually be with backports. Backports *is* an official repository - as are all repositories hosted by Debian - but QA testing on backport packages is limited (and backports are there for convenience, not as proposed fixes for problems), whereas proposed QA is wider (but still requires your testing before being eligible for point release).

Enabling those repositories on a constant basis means you have no idea what will come down if you go:-
# apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade)
This can make live interesting, but it robs you of the control you exercise when you enable selectively eg. I want the latest version of Amarok because it has x, but everything else is to my satisfaction.

If you always enable proposed, and backports, and, have never had any issues, then maybe you've not been running them for many years. My experiences may just be a KDE4/qt/dbus/grub thing.

You may also be using the context of a hobby desktop, not a production environment where any minor conflict can be considered a major issue (people file service requests instead of working etc).

I'll stick to "enable when needed" as I don't believe "enable just in case I need it" is a good idea in the long term, and I'm interested in the long term :-)


[*1]"It is recommended to select single backports which fit your needs, and not to use all available backports."

[*2]"..., packages in stable-proposed-updates aren't yet officially part of Debian Stable and one should not assume is has the same quality and stability (yet!). Those new versions of the packages needs to be reviewed (by the stable release manager) and tested (by some users) before entering stable."
NOTE: stable is not the only branch that receives updates

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