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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get



On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf
<ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote:
>> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert.
>> >> Giving Debian a whirl now.
>> >>
>> > [cut]
>> >>
>> >> yum update
>> >
>> > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian.
>>
>> No. It's not. This is an endless source of confusion for folks coming
>> over from RHEL land. "apt-get update" just resyncs your local
>> repository information, it attempts to install nothing.
>>
>> The equivalent apt command is "apt-get upgrade". The equivalent yum
>> command to "apt-get update" is "yum clean metadata; yum list", to
>> update the available package list.
>
> As a German and a child from the 80's (44 years today) I started with
> SUSE Linux and IIRC they do use yum too, still have got Suse 11.2
> installed, but I'm using yast2, if ever I should change something.
>
> Don't try to find equivalents, re-educate yourself.

Especially if you've been using YaST based tools. Lord, SuSE did
nastiness to that with the non-RPM-based packages from third parties.
I welcome Debian's consistent approach of "bundle it and do it right:
here are good tools for you" rather than trying to outsmart the vendor
packaging systems. (NVidia drivers, shudder!!!!)

Apt has been a very intelligible and effective shift from yum based
repositories for me: much of the credit for that goes to the Debian
maintainers and their firm grasp of "give them enough rope to hang
themselves, if they want, but make sure it's *good rope* and won't
break at surprising moments or chafe their backsides when they make a
hammock".


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