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Re: Defending yourself



On 20110511_084522, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Ma, 10 mai 11, 13:42:34, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > >Not forgotten, but a consequence of the policy decision to let
> > >Debian lists be open.
> > 
> > I question the wisdom of that decision. There are ways to, on the
> > one hand not hinder openness much at all and on the other hand
> > prevent spam from getting through to the list.
> > 
> > The impact of a single spam email reaching a mailing list has a
> > bigger impact than the same spam email sent to an individual.
> 
> Hi Jeroen,
> 
> As has been pointed out, a LOT of spam is filtered, but the filters are 
> tuned to minimize false-positives. The side-effect is that some spam 
> still gets through.
> 
> An interesting solution of partial moderation has been proposed, but 
> implementation is stalling, maybe you are interested in helping out? 
> Look under the bugs for the pseudo-package lists.debian.org.

This is in the wrong fork of this thread for this message. I had
deleted most of it because I thought it had come to an end. But I'm
getting in these few posts hints of ideas that are contrary to a
policy that I very much like. 

I think a crude count would quickly show that their are more posts
kvetching about spam than there is spam. IMHO, nobody looses much time
on reading the actual spam. But a lot of people, myself included, pay
a lot of attention to ill conceived proposals for changes in Debian
policy. And I surely think it is a bad idea to suggest that the list
be moderated, with moderators being volunteers who think moderation is
a good idea. Are the people who ask for help with Ubuntu spam? Of
course not. Do they waste the time of people following this list?
Probably more so than the spam does. But the powers that be believe
that helping all comers is part of the social contract. I like that.

And should each of us be encouraged to offer help on issues about
which we know very little? Keep word counts of how much we
'contribute'? Should the policy on spam be weighted towards the
opinions of those who have the biggest word tally? 
 
-- 
Paul E Condon           
pecondon@mesanetworks.net


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