On 2009-08-04 06:14, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 18:13 +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:28 -0500, Chris wrote:I am concerned about X's dependency on HAL. Years ago I was using my SGI Indy with a superb SGI Monitor and US keyboard (brackets and braces at the right places) to have up to 6 xterms onscreen; the machine is too slow to do real work. I didn't yet recover far enough to know for certain, but planning to run current sid on that box you might hear my curses over the ocean when I find out I have to run HAL or use ancient X.In case you didn't hear me: ARRRRRGS THIS @#%$§*@ XORG STUFF NOT ONLY DEPENDS ON HAL, moreover HAL forces me to install usbutils. USB 1.0 specs were releasedone year after this fine box was built!
Sadly, at some point, software "outgrows" really old h/w, no matter how good the box.
To me, the freedom is still there. I now have the freedom of either removing it or leaving it. The choice is still mine.We'll see, my choices are: current X, no HAL.Where's my freedom, I'm stuck with ancient X if I don't want to run otherwise unused SW?
The GPL gives you freedom to view, modify and use the source code.Your claim to a "freedom", though, is a misplaced sense of entitlement to other people's volunteer efforts.
IOW, by using the binaries that are a product of other people's labor, you forfeit your "right" to complain about them doing what they want to do in their spare time.
going to pin X to stable <grrrrr>.
Rather, pin it to Lenny, so you don't bump to Squeeze when it goes stable.
-- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer