Re: HOWTO enhance Debian by removing HAL
* Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> [2009 Aug 02 01:46 -0500]:
> On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 01:29:56PM +0200, Dirk wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i would like to start a thread where everyone posts his solution for
> > removing HAL or says why "nanny-features" like HAL shouldn't be enforced
> > in Linux.
> >
> >
> > Disable HAL in Xorg on Debian / Ubuntu
> >
> > http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/341.html
> >
> > Disable automatic polling of CD/DVD-ROM drives to save power (and time)
> >
> > http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/07/24/tip-disable-automatic-polling-of-cd-roms-to-save-power/
> >
> >
> > I wonder why people who need "nanny-features" like HAL refuse to just
> > use windows instead.
>
> Hmmm ... convenience?
Dirk has exchanged a couple of emails in private and it seems he
equates convenience with "nanny-features" and that those of us
comfortable with such software should just use MS Windows. This being
the third such themed thread he has thrust upon us in recent months,
his refrain of his sentence has grown a bit tiresome.
> If you push such thought, ... Why even have X ... we can edit
> everything by ed command. No vi(m), no emacs, .... and few essential
> packages only will get to use Debian.
I can appreciate his desire that X not depend on HAL. Sometimes
"scratching that itch" involves removing those aspects we don't like as
well as creating something new. Perhaps the easiest way to accomplish
that is to get the last Xorg packages that did not depend on HAL from
snapshot.debian.org and once they're installed put them into the 'hold'
status. I suggested that he may be using the wrong distribution and
that another may suit his needs better. Perhaps a BSD would be more to
his liking. What he seems to fail to understand is that with Free
Software he has the power to make the system *exactly* how he wishes
unlike the proprietary system he suggests some of us should use.
- Nate >>
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