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Re: request for a mono vote.



On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:06:31PM +0300, ???????? ?????????? wrote:
> As a dedicated  debian user i want to express my concerns and worries
> regarding mono inclusion in main and i  ask for a vote for mono in
> non-free/main because:
>
> 1) I feel like microsoft is not clear about the license issues.

This seems pretty clear:

http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/07/06/the-ecma-c-and-cli-standards.aspx
http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft-moves-C-NET-CLI-to-community-license-helps-Mono/1246980965

> 2) MS is a monopoly in desktop OS market and its monopoly aggresive
> behavior has been proven in courts and is evident every day. see netbook
> market for example.  Wouldnt a pro-ms pro-monopoly  move harm the
> excellent name Debian has  build?

That has nothing to do with Mono. Mono is not tied to MS in any way. The
software has been implemented independently and under open source
licenses (GPL, LGPL, and MIT X11, depending on which piece):

http://www.mono-project.com/Mono,_a_technical_whitepaper#Mono_Licensing

> 3) Is essential to me and the way i perceive the debian identity to has
> a clear position out of middleware rivalries of multinationals companies
> not favoring or taking sides.

I can't parse this sentence. Rather, I can't tell whether you are claiming
that Debian should or should not have a clear position. It doesn't matter,
of course, since Debian has a clear position on licensing, not software
rivalries.

Perl, Python, PHP, Ruby, TCL, etc. are all available in Debian main, as are
a couple of Java interpreters. As long as they are under open source
licenses and are unencumbered by patent threats (or stupid encryption
export laws), they belong in main. 

> +1 for a voting procedure.

+1 for understanding the relevant patent licensing, code licensing, and
Debian policy

-1 for calling for a vote without that understanding

> chomwitt
--Greg


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