Re: X11 without HAL: "DontZap" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Avi Greenbury wrote:
Dirk wrote:
Geeez... the problem is that it was promoted to a requirement for
running a Debian Desktop while there was no need for it in the first
place with alternatives like Ubuntu or Windows(!) at hand.
Another problem are the people who think they need to turn Linux into
something like a Windows to appeal to people who don't even care/know
enough about which OS they use. By this HAL is neglecting the best
part of Linux for the sake of "Linux, ready for the desktop?"
headlines on Slashdot.
What is the 'best part of Linux' that HAL neglects?
The complete absence of automation if I choose not to want/need it.
The ability to mount devices myself, or not.
The ability to do what I want.
You keep coming back to this thing of being like Windows. That, in and
of itself, is not a bad thing
> (there are at least a few things that
Windows got right). It is a bad thing if other things are negatively
affected by being like Windows.
You've not yet explained what these negative effects are. Could you
please do so without reference to Windows or Ubuntu?
Ok, let us assume I wouldn't be able to remove HAL from a installed
Debian without breaking X11 permanently and I have a random problem
(pick one from this list: http://www.google.com/search?q=HAL+problem+linux).
So I turn here and ask how to solve the problem.
The answers will very likely force(!) me(!) to learn to understand how
to alter the HAL configuration while it should be possible not to
install HAL in the first place if it wasn't made a needlessly
requirement(!) for running a Debian desktop.
Is that enough of an answer or is there any HAL fanboy left who want's
to battle choice?
Dirk
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