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Re: CAD software for PCB engineering and routing



2008/6/23 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh@gmail.com>:
> On 21/06/2008, Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net>
> wrote:
>> [a long point-by-point reponse to something I wrote]
>
> Michelle, I'm not sure how worthwhile it will be to repeat to you
> arguments that I'm sure you have heard endless times before. I could
> repeat those arguments, but I doubt you would be interested. You seem
> to already be convinced those arguments are daft; that's fine. For
> what I do, mathematics, the importance of source is evident: this is
> how we do mathematics, sharing proof, method, and internals, this is
> what mathematics *is*.

I also agree that for mathematical work, open source and understanding
the way answers were arrived at are important. For engineers, it is
only the practality that is important. That, and the ability to
interoperate with our coworkers who don't care about open sores.

> Engineers don't think this way, which is troubling, because engineers
> often do mathematics too, and then I have to interface with their
> habits that make my own job that much more difficult. My job is to
> understand things, to improve them, and to explain to others how and
> why things work. This is what a mathematician does. Lack of source and
> legal hurdles to sharing knowledge are all obstacles for my job.

That is why we leave it to you! But tell me the truth, Jordi, would
you really take apart the source code of Solidworks to help you
understand the diagram that I made? Not that you _could_ (which I know
is important to mathematicians) but that you _would_.

> Money is not the issue. You keep alluding about how I want everything
> gratis; this was never my claim. Source could very well be distributed
> with money and you know that many companies do this now, just as many
> other companies always did this before when computers were first
> created. I am unconvinced that it's impossible to do so now.

I always donate the the projects that I use. I bet I could have saved
hundreds of shekels, not to mention hours, had I simply gotten all my
software from Microsoft. Price is not the issue for me either.

> I don't feel compelled to continue this argument... You seem to see
> everything in terms of immediate results and money, both of which I
> insist are nearsighted.

Nearsighted, yes, just like a hungry child is nearsighted and will do
what it takes to eat NOW. Because that is the situation that we are
in, and I have two hungry children at home. Well, the second is on the
way, so wish me and the missus luck.

> As a whole, as a society, we would all be
> better off in the long run without these obstacles to dissemination of
> knowledge.
>

While I do agree with you, I will not let me family starve today for that goal.

Dotan Cohen

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