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Re: [OT] Goodbye Debian



On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Dan H. <dunno@stoptrick.com> wrote:
> Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
>
>  Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
>  certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
>  administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
>  M$ Office, M$IE, Lotus Notes 6 (soon to be migrated to Outlook Express).

Outlook *Express*?! Are they mad? Outlook is bad and Notes is worse,
but at least Notes is powerful and awful. OE is weak and awful.

>  I've never really used Windows before and thought of it as just another
>  system -- I like Debian, you like Windows, no sweat.
>
>  Boy, what a piece of crap. It boggles the mind. This is how the world's
>  office workers get their work done? Or do they?

It seems implausible, doesn't it?
I used to be fairly efficent on Windows, but it took a lot of tweaking. Then
something happened and you had to reinstall, and all tweaks where lost...

>
>  I managed to install Opera in a directory owned by myself, but whenever I
>  try to open any page it keeps asking me for usernames and passwords,
>  which IE somehow seems to inherently know about.

Yeah, in a domain environment, IE can tie directly into the Windows NTLM
system, and use the credentials you logged into Windows with.

Firefox NTLM:
http://codebetter.com/blogs/eric.wise/archive/2006/11/16/Note-to-self_3A00_-Firefox-Windows-Authentication.aspx

Opera 9.0 (for Windows) and up is supposed to have basic support for NTLM.
The 9.5 betas may have improved support and there are proxies that you can
run on your local machine that will do NTLM auth.

PortableApps.com may help for some things.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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