Greg Folkert wrote:
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 20:45 -0500, John C wrote:Greg Folkert wrote:A better question would be.. Why would those who are tired of the OT bull sessions want you to?On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar@fantomas.sk> wrote:Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL] (out of this list)I said this once before and got shot down, but here it is again: If this list is supposed to be for idle chit-chat among the debian community, then we really have no mailing list specifically for people to talk about debian, or get help about debian. We should have at least another list, probably "debian-help".Okay, so why would *I* subscribe to that list?It would probably be a lot better for the new users to help themselves than to be pawns for your ego. Sure they'll make mistakes, but I suspect they'll learn more in the long run.Piss-off. I don't do it for ego, but it seems you do.
Actually, that was a little harsher than I meant it to be Greg. You are not the worst offender. However, if you wonder where the ego comment came from, please notice the highlighted *I* in your statement quoted below. Then ask yourself why anyone would highlight a pronoun when talking about themselves?
"Okay, so why would *I* subscribe to that list?"
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ego n
1: an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others
[syn: {egotism}, {self-importance}]
2: your consciousness of your own identity [syn: {self}]
3: (psychoanalysis) the conscious mind
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As for the Debian User list, there is little value in monitoring
it anymore. In the days of "Bo" and "Hamm" it was by far the most
technically valuable and helpful list on the net, but that day
has passed. It now consists of much more self important bullshit
than debian related discussion. As a result, in the last few
months I've learned more about the politics, religion and sex
life of other users than I ever wanted to know.
Since my only reason for remaining on the list all these years was simply to keep abreast of the progress of the Debian community and since that community seems to be morphing into something less than it could be, I've decided to unsubscribe.
But before doing so, I just wanted to say "thank you" to all who contributed to my knowledge of Debian and of Linux over the years either directly by helping me with a problem or indirectly by helping other users with their problems.
Thanks, and that thanks includes several of the OT posters. John