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Re: Debian Install help



On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:00:17 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:39:20PM -0000, Ed wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but
>> from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I
>> can
> 
> can your *other* machines ping to 192.168.1.1?
> 
> I think maybe you've got some architecture issues in your network. Maybe
> you are somehow misusing an uplink port on a switch or something like
> that?
> 
>> not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can
>> from any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks
>> essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working
> 
> essentially the same means different, so how about providing us a
> working and non working route?
> 
>> machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my
>> router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and
>> also redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network
>> card years ago.)
> 
> what are you using for a router? maybe you've somehow cnofigured a
> firewall such that this machine is not allowed out? Is your whole lan on
> dhcp? if so, are any of the "statically" defined? is your
> router/firewall limiting which parts of the address range are allowed
> out? do you have separate dhcp ranges with different rules? can you try
> giving the install machine a fixed ip for the install process? can you
> plug the machine directly into the router just for the install and if so
> does that help? (that would have the effect of removing all other
> variables and help pinpoint the error). Maybe you've got a borked dhcp
> system and its assigning the same address to multiple machines? etc etc
> etc
> 
> there are many possible causes or work around for this issue. Hopefully,
> I've spurred you to find something
> 
> 
> A

Hi Andrew,
You ask great questions - THANKS
Here are some answers.

On the machine that does NOT reach the Internet, here is the output from 
route command.
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use 
Iface
192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 
eth0
default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 
eth0

Here is the output from ifconfig command.

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:78:1E:66:90  
          inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:10462 (10.2 KiB)  TX bytes:5752 (5.6 KiB)
          Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6200 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)  TX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)

On a machine that DOES work, here is the output from route command.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use 
Iface
192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 
eth0
169.254.0.0     *               255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 
eth0
default         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 
eth0

And on machine that DOES work, here is output from ifcongig

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:18:24:89:1A  
          inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:18ff:fe24:891a/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1158648 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:729749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:1555494197 (1.4 GiB)  TX bytes:69461364 (66.2 MiB)
          Interrupt:5 Base address:0x6000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)  TX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)

>From the bad machine, I can ping the good machine and vice versa.  From 
the good machine, I can ping the router at 192.168.1.1 but from the bad 
machine, I can NOT ping the router - I get Destination Unreachable.

>From the good maching, I can ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu which is at 
169.229.49.36, but from the bad machine, I can not ping 169.229.49.36, 
again getting Destination Host Unreachable.

All my machines are running DHCP - some are laptops running windows, and 
some are desktops running linux fedora.

I do not know the significance of the one additional line in the route 
output from the good machine, or how to add such a line to the bad 
machine.

Thanks again for sticking with me on this so far.  I think we/you are  
close to a solution.

Ed



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