Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

["s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>]

Eric d'Alibut <eric.halibut@gmail.com>:
>  On 9/23/07, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > > namely, an 'ls' that sorts directories first, and
> > > ordinary files afterwards? Do others actually see that behaviour in
> > > terminals?
> 
> > Sure.  That's how it works for me.

Not for me.  I get all dotfiles and dotdirs alphabetically, followed
by non-dotdirs.  It's .(A-Z then a-z):

-rw-------  1 keeling keeling   199 2007-07-12 14:30 .Xauthority
-rwxr-xr-x  1 keeling keeling   643 2007-09-05 20:36 .Xclients*
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling    28 2007-06-10 06:53 .Xmodmap
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling 11475 2007-09-15 12:59 .Xresources
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling  1045 2007-09-23 10:54 .abcde.conf
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling  3943 2007-09-10 20:16 .alias
drwx------  2 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-23 10:54 .aptitude/
-rw-------  1 keeling keeling 10032 2007-09-23 14:34 .bash_history
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling   158 2007-06-10 11:01 .bash_logout
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling  1158 2007-06-14 12:44 .bashrc
drwx------  2 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-01 00:15 .bogofilter/
-rw-------  1 keeling keeling   210 2007-06-23 08:36 .cvspass
drwx------  3 keeling keeling  4096 2007-08-05 16:14 .dbus/
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling  9919 2007-07-10 16:47 .emacs
...
-rw-r--r--  1 keeling keeling 11624 2007-06-23 15:00 .xscreensaver
-rw-------  1 keeling keeling     0 2007-06-23 18:37 .xsession-errors
drwxr-x---  3 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-23 14:54 Mail/
drwxr-xr-x  5 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-23 15:01 News/
drwxr-xr-x  2 keeling keeling  4096 2007-08-07 09:30 Xprintjobs/
...
drwxr-xr-x  2 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-15 09:45 sh/
drwxr-xr-x  2 keeling keeling  4096 2007-06-10 07:13 snd/
drwxr-xr-x  4 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-23 10:54 tmp/
drwxr-xr-x  2 keeling keeling  4096 2007-09-02 07:55 winfonts/


> > $ locale
> > LANG=
> > LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:en
> 
>  I have those values in place, partly as a result of doing 'export
>  LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:en', and I now have 'locale' output identical to
>  yours, but not the wanted 'dirs-first' behaviouir:

Nor do I.

(0) heretic /home/keeling_ echo $LC_COLLATE
C

> 
>  If I may make so bold as to speak for others too, I hate this locale
>  stuff that has descended on us since etch came into the world. Is
>  there a nice dummy-friendly Debian Locale How-To? How, for instance,
>  did you *set* those locale values shown in your post?

Well, there's dpkg-reconfigure locales.  Then you just choose to use
them.  Most take their cue from what locale says, while some apps can
be extended, ie. mutt uses magic like:

    set send_charset="us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-8859-15:utf-8"


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