Re: Need newer software that included with stable (that isn't at backports.org)
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On 07/28/07 12:28, Tim Hull wrote:
>>
>> ISTM, though, that you are missing the point of Stable.
>>
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-getting.en.html#s-updatestable
>>
>> No new functionality is added to the stable release. Once
>> a Debian version is released and tagged `stable' it will
>> only get security updates. That is, only packages for which
>> a security vulnerability has been found after the release
>> will be upgraded. All the security updates are served through
>> security.debian.org.
>>
>> Security updates serve one purpose: to supply a fix for a
>> security vulnerability. They are not a method for sneaking
>> additional changes into the stable release without going through
>> normal point release procedure. Consequently, fixes for packages
>> with security issues will not upgrade the software. The Debian
>> Security Team will backport the necessary fixes to the version
>> of the software distributed in `stable' instead.
>>
>> This is how the people who make Debian want it to be. Ubuntu,
>> Fedora/RH or SUSE may be better suited to you.
>>
>> - --
>> Ron Johnson, Jr.
>> Jefferson LA USA
>>
>> I understand the point of Debian stable - and I understand why most other
> distros (beside RHEL and the other "enterprise" distros) use a 4-6 month
> cycle. However, I don't see why this much be mutually exclusionary with
> pulling selected updates down on an "as-needed" basis. On Windows and OS X,
> one can easily update, say, OpenOffice.org or Firefox without updating the
> whole system.
That's not true.
These links have pre-compiled Linux binaries with suitably old
system software requirements:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
http://download.openoffice.org/2.2.1/index.html
Many sites (especially Sourceforge projects) also have pre-compiled
RPM packages, and some have debs.
And then there are these RPM search sites:
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/
http://rpm.pbone.net/
> On Linux distributions, however, you either have to wait for the next distro
> release (whether that be 4 months or 12 months) or use hackish solutions
> only a Gentoo user could love. Of course, I could just use OS X (or
> Windows) but that's not the point - I like the tweakability/freedom of
> Linux, but I just want to be able to update, for instance, my kernel or ACPI
> packages separate from my glibc and Xorg without leaving the realm of the
> package system.
> In any case, this is probably best reserved for the -devel list, as it has
> gone outside the scope of my main question (how to make backports) and into
> the realm of release cycles etc.
You'll get the same answers as you got from me (in a range of
politenesses).
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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