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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/11/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote:
>> Celejar wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200
>>> Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> wrote:
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>>>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> I am playing the Devil's advocate here.  So I might as well fulfill my
>>>>>> role.  So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was
>>>>>> sacrificed instead.  Fine.  So God demanded cruelty to an animal, which
>>>>>> is also against our modern laws.
>>>>> Cruelty?  Where does that come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or are you a vegan?
>>>> No, but I don't think it is right to kill an animal for any purpose than
>>>> to eat it, or perhaps to end it's suffering.  But, that's where we can
>>> What possible logical / moral justification do you have for that
>>> distinction? If one believes that there's some purpose to animal
>>> sacrifice, and the Bible clearly does, than how on earth can you
>>> conclude that that purpose is any less of a legitimate one than
>>> nourishment?
>> Well, just try it.  Go out and sacrifice a few dogs or cats and watch
>> the Humane Society step in.  Do it in front of the police headquarter
>> building to save a bit of time.  Oh wait.  We don't eat dogs and cats
>> (well in some places they do) go sacrifice a little lamb.  Make sure you
>> steal it from Mary. ;)
> 
>> To me, animal sacrifice is immoral.  To the law it is too.  That is my
>> logical justification.
> 
> There's not a whole lot of difference between a person killing a
> lamb on an alter, then hanging it on a hook to "dress" it than what
> a slaughterhouse or farmer does with a lamb.
> 
> - From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48
> [gcide]:
>    4. To adjust; to put in good order; to arrange; specifically:
>       (a) To prepare for use; to fit for any use; to render
>           suitable for an intended purpose; to get ready; as, to
>           dress a slain animal; to dress meat; to dress leather
>           or cloth; to dress or trim a lamp; to dress a garden;
>           to dress a horse, by currying and rubbing; to dress
>           grain, by cleansing it; in mining and metallurgy, to
>           dress ores, by sorting and separating them.
> 

The difference is that the person "dressing" the lamb is preparing it
for use, usually to eat.  That serves a purpose in at least nourishing
the body.  I suppose sacrificing the lamb could be said to be nourishing
the spirit, but I don't think a court of law would see it that way.

Joe
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