Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:04:41 +1000
SB <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 05/08/07 19:55, SB wrote:
> >>> Celejar wrote:
> >>>> I don't ignore it; I agree that religion has made ordinary people do
> >>>> extraordinarily cruel things; my point was that this isn't a problem
> >>>> exclusive to religion, but to compelling and convincing axiologies in
> >>>> general, and I reiterate, would we really be better off without them? I
> >>>> think it is unjust to imply that I'm 'reflexively' dismissing 'every'
> >>>> critique of religion as shallow and ignorant; I dismissed *one* as
> >>>> such, and for reasons I maintain are logical.
> >>>> And one more thing; while religion can "make ordinary people do
> >>>> extraordinarily cruel things", it can (and often does) also make
> >>>> ordinary people do extraordinarily lovely things.
> >>> It's the claim of an exclusive franchise on truth by some (mainly Judaism,
> >>> Christianity and Islam) closely related religions that has compelled them
> >>> to justify all manner of cruelty, in the name of "god". It's this claim that
> >>> has caused and is causing all sorts of problems for the rest of us
> >>> Heathens/Kaffirs.
> > Or the fundamentalist Hindus who occasionally go on rampages,
> > killing Muslims or burning people in effigy.
> Sure, but the Hindus aren't doing it in the name of God, Allah, Shiva
> or whatever. Hinduism has other problems but claiming an exclusive franchise
> on truth is not one of them.
That's exactly the point; humans being human, they will do cruel things
even without "claiming an exclusive franchise on truth".
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