Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

[Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>]

On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 10:09:38 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:52:02 -0700
> Kenward Vaughan wrote:

[...]

> > Kenward
> > -- 
> > With or without (religion) you would have good people doing good things
> > and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil
> > things, that takes religion.  --Physicist and Nobel Laureate Steven
> > Weinberg
> 
> Even if true, there are different ways to interpret this:
> 
> a) religion increases the number of people who do evil things,
> extending {E:E does evil things} and causing it to overlap with 
> {g:g is a good person}
> 
> b) religion increases the number of good people, extending {g:g is a
> good person} and causing it to overlap with {E:E does evil things}
> 
> In any case, I think Weinberg's assertion is ridiculous; no 'good'
> atheist has ever done evil? Perhaps he means 'for good people to do
> evil in the name of good', but it's still patently false; no 'good'
> atheist has ever done evil in the name of a (secular) humanist ideal?
> If Weinberg means that a 'good' atheist who does evil is by definition
> not good, then this is sophistry; the same can be said about believers.
> Apparently scientists, even great ones, can be as ignorant and shallow
> as anyone else outside of their areas of expertise.

What are, then, your definitions of "good people", "evil things" and
"religion"? Which events in human history do you consider to be examples
of good people doing evil things without religion being involved?

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